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Sehen sie die bilder
Porsche 944 turbo S Fuchs felgen silver rose
7x16  : 951.362.115 ( ET 65)
9x16 :  928.362.119 ( ET 60)
felgen sind aus 12/1988  mit gebrauchers spuren und sind poliert
mussen generaluberholt werden fur concours fahrzeug

Look at the pictures
Porsche 944 turbo S silver rose Fuchs wheels
7x16  : 951.362.115 ( ET 65)
9x16 :  928.362.119 ( ET 60)
rims are from 12/1988
must be refurbished for a concours 944 turbo s
rims are polished

Design 90 wheels, right?

see that blond over there, on the sofa? I know for a fact that her kitty is shaved. now see the one standing by the door? her hair is blond down to the roots, but her flower is nestled in a bed of luxurious dark brown. the crazy looking blond stepping outta the loo, her's is fire red — how could I possibly know that? she forgot to lock the door, I walked in, she got up, I saw it, she screamed, and slammed the door in my face. three blonds, but three very different kinds of blonds.

back to Design 90 wheels — D90s for the lazy-tongued.

they were the most popular on the 964 series of 911s. with the birth of the Carrera 2 and Carrera 4 came sophisticated bits like ABS and multi-plate clutch AWD under a familiar body dummied up with modern polyurethane bumpers and cladding. the five-petal Fuchs wheels would look ridiculous had they been used and besides, their offset and design were completely incompatible with the new ABS/AWD system components.  so, starting with model year 1989, the first 964 (the Carrera 4) would use the Design 90 wheels.

what few may realize is that the Design 90 was born two years earlier in 1987 on a Porsche even fewer believe existed — the 928 Clubsport prototype. when the Clubsport became official for model year 1988/89, they too would use the D90 with the CS option code M637 or option code M393Club Sport Wheel 16 Inches if you preferred them on your S4. they'd also live under the 928 GT's fenders until its and the D90's demise in 1991.

the third model to also wear them officially was the 1989-1991 944S2, 1989-1991 944 Turbo and 944s with option M030. but it was the 1988 944 Turbo S SIlberrossa, or Silver Rose, edition that wore them first in the '44 series. the wheels in this piece that flüssiger and Porsche history collector Mike van der Weerd is selling are from the Turbo S — and they're the reason why I want to clarify Design 90 applications.

three Design 90s, but three very different sets of D90s. 

first we'll knock out the 964 version. both front and rears have an offset of 52,3mm; remember, they're used from model year 1989-1992 — here are the part numbers and sizes:
  • 964 362 112 01 - silver metallic 6 J x 16  - ET 52,3
  • 964 362 116 01 - silver metallic 8 J x 16 -  ET 52,3

the 928 S4/GT/Clubsport models were offered these versions: (pay attention here, the later versions for the 1990-1991 S4/GT were CAST)

1987 - 1988 928 S4 (Clubsport)
with option:
M393 - Club Sport wheel 16 inch
M637 - Club Sport CS
  • 928 362 117 30 - alloy wheel 8 J x 16 - ET 60 - FORGED silver
  • 928 362 119 30 - alloy wheel 9 J x 16 - ET 60 - FORGED silver

1989 928 S4 (GT)
with option:
M482 - RDK tire pressure monitoring system
M393 - Club Sport wheel 16 inch
M637 - Club Sport CS
M639 - Version GT
  • 928 362 157 30 - alloy wheel 8 J x 16 - ET 60 - FORGED silver
  • 928 362 159 30 - alloy wheel 9 J x 16 - ET 60 - FORGED silver

1990 - 1991 928 S4/GT 
and/or with option: 
M482 - RDK tire pressure monitoring system
M400 - cast aluminum Design 90 wheels 16 inch
  • 928 362 154 05 - alloy wheel 7,5 J x 16 - ET 65 CAST
  • 928 362 158 02 - alloy wheel 9 J x 16 - ET 52,3 CAST

Design 90s made their 944 debut on the 1988 Siilberrossa Edition Turbo S. interestingly, you won't find these wheels in Porsche's 1985-1988 944 PET where it should be, instead it's listed in the 1989-1991 944 PET. below are the part numbers that are both found in the later PET catalog and are stamped on the wheels Mike is selling. 

out of all the Design 90 listed, the only two Porsches that share a forged set are the '87-'88 928 Clubsport and '88-'89 944 Turbo (S); and it's only the rear set 928 362 119 30. I suspect, although the catalog doesn't specify, that the front set 928 362 115 30 on the Turbo are also forged. they also have a more smoother look than the others with a less pronounced lip. here're the facts:

(1988) - 1989 944 Turbo (S Silberrossa Edition)
  • 951 362 115 30 - alloy wheel 7 J x 16 - ET 65 - FORGED silver
  • 928 362 119 30 - alloy wheel 9 J x 16 - ET 60 - FORGED silver

the '88-'89 Turbos aren't the only 944s to have these wheels, the '89-'91 S2 and '90-'91 Turbos also have a set with different part numbers. the 1989 S2 is the odd one getting its own set with 964 part numbers, and they both use the same part number for the rear wheel (the fronts have different offsets). 944s with the M030 option also get a set. here goes:

1989  944 S2
  • 964 362 114 01 -  7 J x 16  - ET 55 - silver
  • 964 362 116 01 -  8 J x 16  - ET 52,3 - silver

1990 - 1991 944 S2/Turbo/M030
  • 928 362 114 05 - alloy wheel 7,5 J x 16 - ET 65 - silver
  • 928 362 118 05 - alloy wheel 9 J x 16 - ET 52,3 - silver

Mike's a sharp seller who realizes how critical such details are concerning the specifics of Porsche wheels...which is why he starts his ad with "LOOK AT THE IMAGES." any connoisseur not busy playing with himself will immediately cross-check the digits on these D90s to make sure they are what is claimed. according to the numbers stamped on the insides of the wheels, they match PERFECTLY with those specified for the 1988 Turbo S Silberrossa Edition.

you can also see the date stamp, these were forged out on February of 1988. here's something else you may or may not have picked off — these D90s are made by Fuchs. how can I tell? the second and fifth image of the inner wheel have separate part numbers; AS1062032598 and AS1062032000 and next to it is that familiar little fox's whiskered face belonging to no one other than Herr Otto Fuchs' company.

highball!


http://www.ebay.de/itm/porsche-944-turbo-S-silver-rose-fuchs-felgen


Mike van der Weerd's email is:  m.vanderweerd@kpnplanet.nl 
 


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jose
06/20/2016 10:36

still have these rims? What is the minimum price?

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